Trivium and Quadrium, particle/wave
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:59 am
Everybody in this world is spending too much time focused either on survival or having fun, that no one is spending enough time bringing into recognition the truest knowledge that will preserve the freedom for us to be happy and also direct our survival as a humanity to a place that is both sound and rationally achieved.
Being in the position of teacher, is comparable to a religious practitioner in its expression. A religious person would attend church, contribute a monetary offering, and pray before dinner. All these things put into practice, will cause a balance between what we want to believe, and how we enact those beliefs. But this balance isn't a natural balance; it would be equivalent to drinking 5 monster energy drinks and junk food to keep your energy up, when maintaining a proper balanced diet would create a more stable balance.
After spending your time, effort, and money towards being a religious person. According to all the energy you have put towards upholding those religious doctrines, you will have very little willpower left to actually consider the legitimacy of it in light and with respect to other systems of belief.
And just as a teacher devotes so much time towards presenting this information, creating an outline for the course, grading homework/tests, etc... They will have very little willpower left to actually devote towards considering information that relates to what they feel they have already devoted so much towards. Basically a "I already gave at the office," stance towards looking at it or any comparable versions.
This isn't a choice, it is natural that if you spend a lot of something, that you won't have as much of it to give away. So it is going to take literally TWICE as much effort for someone calling themselves a teacher to look at how information should be organized. Just like it would take twice as much effort to get a Christian to recognize and accept what morality is outside of the Bible. (Try asking a religious person about morality, and they can't use any names, and have to actually be specific about it. They probably won't even give you the time.)
So this is your battle to overcome. You have to overcome your self barriers before you can even join me on this intellectual field of discourse. Because I have worked hard to "figure it all out" as one might put it. I spent 6 years looking at everything "negative;" alien abductions, conspiracy theories, Illuminati, following the money, etc... But it didn't really lead me to an answer, so I spent roughly 6 years looking at everything that was "positive" or claimed to be good; religions, the new age movement, energetic healing, holistic medicine, etc... And I learned a ton, but I still didn't have a whole picture yet, just a whole bunch of individual pieces.
Then I learned about Mark Passio, who also seemed to have all these individual pieces. But he was able to put them in an order that actually made sense, and didn't contradict in any way. A truly INTEGRAL theory of the universe. Mark seemed to have all the answers, but his main point to stress wasn't how we could connect these seemingly opposing theories smoothly. His main point was just to understand what MORALITY meant, and how we achieved or failed at it in any everyday situation. This is really the only thing that he will claim to be the mission of his presentation, despite all the other entertaining avenues that he has begun to take it.
I don't understand why you can't stand to hear about him, when you haven't done any effort to see if his work is legit. The most you have done is skim over some chapter headings, without actually digging in to any of them. He has just as much right to claim legitimacy to his information that you do. And many others with as good or better status than you have recognized him or just some of the ideas he is willing to talk about.
But thanks to Mark teaching me about "morality," all the pieces of information started to make sense in a higher order. That is why I think that morality is a precursor towards higher thought. Because if morality is the wisest course of action, recognizing this and completely understanding it, would also set our minds in a similar "most optimal" formation for thinking to take place. So even if you disagree with it, you could profit exponentially by spending some time to get an unwavering definition of how morality operates, definitively and applicably to every possible situation!
At the very most heart of what I am presenting, I would like to convey this idea of how a particle and wave differ. Just like the difference in the Spanish language in "es/esta." We have to differentiate between the properties of an individual object, and the properties of objects combined. As we have to do consider the state of individual objects in action, and actions that involve multiple objects. We have to consider these 4 directions, which is the quadrivium, and refine all of them until we can connect them further.
Science is meant to be the culmination of these four areas of study, as science usually ignores the trivium, leaving it for religions to fight over. But you could do well to understand how arithmetic, geometry, music, and astrology; are all just a symbolic practice to get you to start seeing these four qualities in reality. Here is a good description on this website, about how they have SYMBOLIC meaning.
https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve ... ivium.html
When I'm talking about energy, I'm talking about the same thing that you know it as. I just need you to be sure of how you are using it, and make sure it remains valid on other levels that it is applied to. As I do this, I also learn about the proper way to use it, and finding a definition that will contain it's usage in every situation. So stop thinking that I am trying to get you to abandon everything you know in form of some thing "new."
I am talking about the same laws that have governed this universe since before mankind even arrived here, regardless of whatever way we arrived here. And since these fundamental truths can be found in every natural system, I don't think it beyond past civilizations of humanity to have figured out how all these pieces connect. They might have even been popularly more educated than we are today as a humanity. But understanding these Truths, isn't just limited to our fancy technology today, or an idea that we have evolved to a better point to grasp it with. There is real evidence that many past civilizations recognized, not only symbolic information, but the SAME symbolic information. Whether it was legitimately understood, or dumbly passed down like some ark of the covenant relic, I don't know and it would be difficult to differentiate. But for it to be there at all shows that at least one of our past civilizations went much further in science than we are willing to give them credit for. Some of these examples are mentioned in Thrive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s
You don't have to abandon your hard earned scientific knowledge to grasp the basics presented here. Just listen to it, and consider each part piece by piece, then take the "weight" of these individual pieces, and compare their rationality against the parts of the presentation. There might be a lot right, and there might be a lot wrong. But don't just say, "It's ALL bad," like a Christian would say about Islam, or Buddhism, or even atheism. To react and say the whole thing is bad, is just the same as admitting that you CAN'T differentiate between the rational and the irrational.
If you are confused, don't be afraid. We can talk about it, figure out what is truly legit, and what establishes itself as false, after repeatedly verifying it across different environments. There is a lot of legitimate claims to some conspiracies, but they are usually made by an individual that doesn't have a full grasp on HOW/WHY that would have happened, or don't possess a legitimate answer to what we should do about fixing these problems that nobody wants to look at. And there is also a lot of good information in the new age movement, but they will only be able to talk about it from a limited perspective that doesn't really bring it to a fully realizable prospect. But if we start letting our emotions decide for us, we will begin "throwing the baby out with the bath water."
I only pieced all this together about two years ago, so I am still kinda new to enlightenment, which I WILL admit to possessing, but not as a claim of the validity of my information, not at all. So I can get some pieces wrong, but I'm willing to be wrong in order to be certain. And it doesn't seem like you all have that "gusto." In fact you seem quite settled in what you WANT to believe. But I don't think that is the mindset of a freethinker. At least it shouldn't be.
Being in the position of teacher, is comparable to a religious practitioner in its expression. A religious person would attend church, contribute a monetary offering, and pray before dinner. All these things put into practice, will cause a balance between what we want to believe, and how we enact those beliefs. But this balance isn't a natural balance; it would be equivalent to drinking 5 monster energy drinks and junk food to keep your energy up, when maintaining a proper balanced diet would create a more stable balance.
After spending your time, effort, and money towards being a religious person. According to all the energy you have put towards upholding those religious doctrines, you will have very little willpower left to actually consider the legitimacy of it in light and with respect to other systems of belief.
And just as a teacher devotes so much time towards presenting this information, creating an outline for the course, grading homework/tests, etc... They will have very little willpower left to actually devote towards considering information that relates to what they feel they have already devoted so much towards. Basically a "I already gave at the office," stance towards looking at it or any comparable versions.
This isn't a choice, it is natural that if you spend a lot of something, that you won't have as much of it to give away. So it is going to take literally TWICE as much effort for someone calling themselves a teacher to look at how information should be organized. Just like it would take twice as much effort to get a Christian to recognize and accept what morality is outside of the Bible. (Try asking a religious person about morality, and they can't use any names, and have to actually be specific about it. They probably won't even give you the time.)
So this is your battle to overcome. You have to overcome your self barriers before you can even join me on this intellectual field of discourse. Because I have worked hard to "figure it all out" as one might put it. I spent 6 years looking at everything "negative;" alien abductions, conspiracy theories, Illuminati, following the money, etc... But it didn't really lead me to an answer, so I spent roughly 6 years looking at everything that was "positive" or claimed to be good; religions, the new age movement, energetic healing, holistic medicine, etc... And I learned a ton, but I still didn't have a whole picture yet, just a whole bunch of individual pieces.
Then I learned about Mark Passio, who also seemed to have all these individual pieces. But he was able to put them in an order that actually made sense, and didn't contradict in any way. A truly INTEGRAL theory of the universe. Mark seemed to have all the answers, but his main point to stress wasn't how we could connect these seemingly opposing theories smoothly. His main point was just to understand what MORALITY meant, and how we achieved or failed at it in any everyday situation. This is really the only thing that he will claim to be the mission of his presentation, despite all the other entertaining avenues that he has begun to take it.
I don't understand why you can't stand to hear about him, when you haven't done any effort to see if his work is legit. The most you have done is skim over some chapter headings, without actually digging in to any of them. He has just as much right to claim legitimacy to his information that you do. And many others with as good or better status than you have recognized him or just some of the ideas he is willing to talk about.
But thanks to Mark teaching me about "morality," all the pieces of information started to make sense in a higher order. That is why I think that morality is a precursor towards higher thought. Because if morality is the wisest course of action, recognizing this and completely understanding it, would also set our minds in a similar "most optimal" formation for thinking to take place. So even if you disagree with it, you could profit exponentially by spending some time to get an unwavering definition of how morality operates, definitively and applicably to every possible situation!
At the very most heart of what I am presenting, I would like to convey this idea of how a particle and wave differ. Just like the difference in the Spanish language in "es/esta." We have to differentiate between the properties of an individual object, and the properties of objects combined. As we have to do consider the state of individual objects in action, and actions that involve multiple objects. We have to consider these 4 directions, which is the quadrivium, and refine all of them until we can connect them further.
Science is meant to be the culmination of these four areas of study, as science usually ignores the trivium, leaving it for religions to fight over. But you could do well to understand how arithmetic, geometry, music, and astrology; are all just a symbolic practice to get you to start seeing these four qualities in reality. Here is a good description on this website, about how they have SYMBOLIC meaning.
https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve ... ivium.html
When I'm talking about energy, I'm talking about the same thing that you know it as. I just need you to be sure of how you are using it, and make sure it remains valid on other levels that it is applied to. As I do this, I also learn about the proper way to use it, and finding a definition that will contain it's usage in every situation. So stop thinking that I am trying to get you to abandon everything you know in form of some thing "new."
I am talking about the same laws that have governed this universe since before mankind even arrived here, regardless of whatever way we arrived here. And since these fundamental truths can be found in every natural system, I don't think it beyond past civilizations of humanity to have figured out how all these pieces connect. They might have even been popularly more educated than we are today as a humanity. But understanding these Truths, isn't just limited to our fancy technology today, or an idea that we have evolved to a better point to grasp it with. There is real evidence that many past civilizations recognized, not only symbolic information, but the SAME symbolic information. Whether it was legitimately understood, or dumbly passed down like some ark of the covenant relic, I don't know and it would be difficult to differentiate. But for it to be there at all shows that at least one of our past civilizations went much further in science than we are willing to give them credit for. Some of these examples are mentioned in Thrive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s
You don't have to abandon your hard earned scientific knowledge to grasp the basics presented here. Just listen to it, and consider each part piece by piece, then take the "weight" of these individual pieces, and compare their rationality against the parts of the presentation. There might be a lot right, and there might be a lot wrong. But don't just say, "It's ALL bad," like a Christian would say about Islam, or Buddhism, or even atheism. To react and say the whole thing is bad, is just the same as admitting that you CAN'T differentiate between the rational and the irrational.
If you are confused, don't be afraid. We can talk about it, figure out what is truly legit, and what establishes itself as false, after repeatedly verifying it across different environments. There is a lot of legitimate claims to some conspiracies, but they are usually made by an individual that doesn't have a full grasp on HOW/WHY that would have happened, or don't possess a legitimate answer to what we should do about fixing these problems that nobody wants to look at. And there is also a lot of good information in the new age movement, but they will only be able to talk about it from a limited perspective that doesn't really bring it to a fully realizable prospect. But if we start letting our emotions decide for us, we will begin "throwing the baby out with the bath water."
I only pieced all this together about two years ago, so I am still kinda new to enlightenment, which I WILL admit to possessing, but not as a claim of the validity of my information, not at all. So I can get some pieces wrong, but I'm willing to be wrong in order to be certain. And it doesn't seem like you all have that "gusto." In fact you seem quite settled in what you WANT to believe. But I don't think that is the mindset of a freethinker. At least it shouldn't be.