graybear13 wrote:My problem with big bang is the beginning, all matter appearing in an instant from nothing.
You completely miss the point. If it is as you say then it would seem that science threw the church a biscuit by accepting big bang just so they could get on with building the model. That may be true; don't have to worry about that creation shit anymore, we can figure that out later...Well now it's later.
You want me to understand the model as well as you do and join the quest for the last big piece of the puzzle , the T.O.E., deeper and deeper inside of the atom; atomic, sub-atomic, nuclear, sub-nuclear at last we have arrived at the elemental particle. The LHC has exerted so much heat and pressure on protons that they are completely boiled away, and leaving what? A super heated cloud of elemental particles (ether). Science was looking for a real proof of the big bang and they found the ether. They found the quantum packet of energy that cannot be boiled away.
We have come full circle. Now that we have seen the atom completely boiled away and we have seen the ether, we have seen the stuff that everything is made of. The question now is how does this stuff get organized into matter in the first place? How does a cloud of ether traveling through space slow down and whirl into the creation of matter? The CBR shows the ether slowing down and condensing into galaxies and all forms of matter. The newly discovered gravity waves are a result of this gravitational collapse.
This thread is not about the waterfall, it's about the river.