And if you want to tell a lie and look like an idiot, don't use any statistics at all.getrichs wrote:Ok
First if you wanna tell a lie us Statistics!!!
You can make numbers speak any way you like
You need to refer to these articles:But here is a flaw in the data
It is based on REPORTED TAXES
what about the people that dont get any taxes taken out at all
Illegals working off the books and people "working under the table"
whne you include that what is the percentage THEN????
http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/pr-imsum.html (old, but worth noting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States (a good summary, with references)
Few employers of any consequence will hire illegal immigrants "under the table" or "off the books"-- it's risky, it and complicates bookkeeping. But if you want to address the issue, get rid of loopholes and giveaways in the corporate tax system-- that's where the real money is regarding those workers.
Raising revenue and spending it are two entirely different procedures.ALSO
lets have a study on the REVERSE SIDE to this (SPENDING)
WHAT is the Percentage of WHERE the money is going?
what percent of the money is going to the lowest percentile in terms of income
Im willing to bet a disproportionally HIGH Percentage of the money is going to the people that pay the least in terms of % and Gross Dollars
As far as I know, any adjustment in tax rates will be, like the current ones, progressive, so this shouldn't be a problem. With any luck, they'll be even more progressive-- but I digress. Thought question: would you rather live on $250,000 taxed at, say, 40%, or $20,000 taxed at 15%? Take your time.and
Lastly Why is it when you use the example for the percentage for Highest Income you use people at about $1million dollars or more
Yet the new tax plans doesn't start at that SUPER RICH level it starts somewhere at people with $250,000 or more and includes small businesses
That is the problem I have
That ($250,00.00) is not the SUPER RICH
Funding solutions to problems works all the time, if not every time. As long as conservatives can successfully inculcate the perception that government is a failure, nobody will be happy. If you'd ignore the conservative drumbeat, you could be a happier person. Let the Teabaggers wallow in misery by themselves.Look it is very simple
No matter what tax system you come up with someone is not going to like it or say its not fair to someone
But the problem most people have is that the taxes (money government gets) NEVER solves the problem
I've never seen this with infrastructure. When money is appropriated for a large public project, the work gets done and the people directly affected are happy. Infrastructure is too high-profile, and the appropriation method too public, for your infrastructure scenario to be much of a problem. (Except perhaps when Governor Palin decided to not take the "Bridge to Nowhere" funding after all.) The War on Drugs, though, would have been a great example. Let's halt the War on Drugs.If you Create/raise a tax to solve say infrastructure problems then once the tax was paid and the infra structure problem was in fact solved people would not really care as much but you create the tax and the problem still exist it makes people angry
That's your fault. Why would you be envious of a benefit that you would have to be worse off in order to get? Next time, call a cab. Perhaps those people in Rhode Island are too old or too sick to make it to a bus stop, or get onto a bus. Maybe they have no family members nearby, and they've outlived all of their friends. I hope they know better than to call you.Also when people that are working see people that are not getting benefits that they cannot get it makes them angry
In RI if you have a doctors appointment and cant get there you can call a cab and it is covered by the taxpayers
I dont know about you but if I cant get to an appointment I try to get maybe reschedule or as someone for a ride or walk to get there, maybe take a Bus... but a cab NO
When things look unfair to people WATCH OUT!!!!
And when things actually ARE unfair?