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Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:41 pm
by thomaswos
Obama wins nobel peace prize. Why?
Hard to believe that a U.S. President can win a peace prize while engaged in two wars.
Can some one please inform me as to why Obama has gotten a Nobel Peace Prize when he has yet to do what he has gotten the prize for?

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:33 am
by Betsy
perhaps if you posted this under the politics forum heading you would get some responses...?

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:34 pm
by Savonarola
Betsy wrote:perhaps if you posted this under the politics forum heading you would get some responses...?
I'll move it, which is the next best thing.

--Savonarola, FFForums Mod@Large

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:09 pm
by tmiller51
I don't know that he really deserved it yet. It was mostly symbolic and a way to give Bush a well deserved jab.

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:09 pm
by L.Wood
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Other than being the first black person to ever be elected President in a nation of loud racists and bigots (see here) the award is mostly
for NOT being George Bush. Worst. President. Ever.

It was also a symbolic "Congratulations" gesture to Americans for overcoming
our racist, bigoted past.

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Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:22 pm
by Dardedar
thomaswos wrote:Obama wins nobel peace prize. Why?
DAR
Oh, that's easy. The Nobel Prize committee carefully considered 205 nominations and decided, "unanimously," in a decision that "came with ease," that Obama had the best ability/potential to accomplish peaceful ends for the world compared with all of the rest.
THOMAS
Hard to believe that a U.S. President can win a peace prize while engaged in two wars.
DAR
One of which he is ahead of schedule on retracting us from (which he opposed from the start), the other... sort of a "make the best of a bad situation" left by a warmonger who didn't finish a job that should have been wrapped up years ago.
THOMAS
Can some one please inform me as to why Obama has gotten a Nobel Peace Prize when he has yet to do what he has gotten the prize for?
DAR
It's important to consider that many Nobel Peace prize winners went on to succeed with their better known accomplishments AFTER they were given the prize. So winning the award is also an attempt to give someone who has great potential to be influential in accomplishing peaceful goals even more power and influence in this regard. Note:

"I know that throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement -- it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes. And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action -- a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century." --Obama

Also, he has accomplished a great deal even in a short time. His reaching out to Muslims as human beings we can talk with was a stunner. Another obvious example would be canceling the provocative and unnecessary and expensive missile shield (that doesn't work).

ElBaradei, the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency, who knows a little more about the proliferation of nuclear weapons than you or I says:

"I could not think of anybody who is more deserving," said ElBaradei.

The disdain for Bush's failures in this regard where also no doubt part of this:

"the Nobel Committee pushes "multilateralism around the world [and] very much disliked the prior U.S. president [George W. Bush]. ... This is in part a reflection of that as well."

D.
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Rising star, representative Grayson on the republicans complaining about Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize:

"I think I understand their disappointment. They're not going to be winning the Nobel Peace Prize themselves anytime soon. They probably wish there were a Nobel Prize for fear, a Nobel Prize for hatred, a Nobel prize for racism. You know, then they'd be in the running, but I don't think they're going to be winning a Nobel Peace Prize soon." --Rep. Alan Grayson, Link.

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:11 pm
by Doug
thomaswos wrote:Can some one please inform me as to why Obama has gotten a Nobel Peace Prize when he has yet to do what he has gotten the prize for?
DOUG
He HAS accomplished what the peace prize is for. It is for peace. Obama has travelled the world, even BEFORE being elected president, assuring the world that he will, if elected--and later after being elected--bring the U.S. back to sanity. He assured the world that under his administration the U.S. will no longer be a rogue nation, will no longer start wars without sufficient cause, and will work with other nations to promote peace and understanding.

After being elected, he continued this message, and has worked to make it a reality. He has done more to calm and reassure the world about the deadly U.S. threat than any other person alive. He has been able to show the world that the U.S. is no longer reckless and murderous. Unlike his predecessor who never thought to try to fight smart battles, who never cared about who he murdered, Obama reached out to Muslim nation in an attempt to show that we are not the demons that, together, Bush and Osama bin Laden had made us out to be.

Obama has brought the U.S. back from the darkness Bush and Cheney plunged it into, and he has strategically positioned the U.S. so that it can begin trying to win back its place as a world leader in the area of peace, an area in which we had lost all our credibility because of Republican principles gone amok.

Obama certainly deserved this peace prize.

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:29 pm
by John Galt
Ha Ha Ha - This is the funniest post ever from this WACKO BAND OF NUT BURGERS- You folks ARE FREAKS.

Obama- Bows before the Japanese Emperor- OBAMA bows??????? What a dip.

This idiot deserves the NOBEL PEACE for not being Bush- for being half black??????/

YOU FOLKS ARE FREAKS------

Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:19 am
by Dardedar
DAR
I think if Mr. "Galt" had good arguments for his beliefs he would use them. Instead, he resorts to throwing insults and calling people names. That's too bad. I assure him it is much more rewarding when you can back up your claims without that kind of behavior.

D.
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Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:26 am
by Dardedar
John Galt wrote: OBAMA bows??????? What a dip.
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Hey Galt, sometimes leaders temporarily adopt the customs of a country they are visiting. For instance, here is Mr. Bush doing just that. Doesn't he look snappy.

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Re: Obama wins nobel prize

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:43 pm
by Dardedar
As one person noted:

"Everybody knows proper diplomatic protocol for foreign leaders is to give them backrubs."

Did it cause a problem when Eisenhower was bowing to leaders?