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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:29 am

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by David Franks » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:58 pm

Meanwhile, in a Teabagger sleeper cell....

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:27 pm

Bill Maher:

"The National Review said, "If the President thinks the NFL is too dangerous for his fictitious son, what about the military?" Right, because defending your country and kickoff returns are the same thing.
I don't know where Republicans get this weird delusion that they're the party of manliness, but this is Rush Limbaugh's bedroom.

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(audience laughter and applause)

Talent on loan from God. Furniture on loan from Liberace. (audience laughter)

And yet somehow conservatives — who boast by far the bigger list of non-serving chickenhawks — see themselves as the tough guys. But it's rarely a real manliness, it's more the pathetic bluster of a blogger in his bathrobe demanding that Obama "man up and bomb Iran!" while his mother fixes his macaroni and cheese.

None of this is going to get better until Democrats stop letting Republicans claim they've got the big balls, just because. For one, I never quite got how my life would be better with increased ball size. (audience laughter) If you need to stick your balls in to get things going, you're doing it wrong! (audience laughter) And two, Democrats have to start being the party that redefines toughness as restraint. And stop responding to Republican taunts that have goaded Michael Dukakis into a tank, John Kerry into a duck hunting outfit, and Hillary Clinton into Iraq.

Because it's not really masculinity conservatives love, anyway — it's bullying. Somehow we've gone from Teddy Roosevelt's "speak softly and carry a big stick" to Chris Christie's "speak loudly and be a big dick". (wild audience cheering and applause)

Fox News's manly He-Man Brit Hume said liberals don't get Christie, because he's a, quote, "old fashioned masculine muscular guy". (shocked audience laughter) Or maybe four muscular guys in a garbage truck.

But bullying isn't a masculine virtue; standing up to bullies is. (wild audience cheering and applause) Ignoring society's least-abled people is not masculine; taking care of them is. (audience cheering) But to macho people like Rush Limbaugh, who said Obama not letting his son play football was "irresponsible", or Glenn Beck — another fountain of testosterone — who called on Obama to "stop being a chick" about football, this is what it always comes down to: Obama is a pussy like all Democrats are pussies.

It's all part of their narrative that (spoken sarcastically) "we will keep you safe, cuz we're the real men who aren't afraid to send your kids off to die in wars of choice. And the Democrats are a bunch of nancy-boys who think of war as some sort of last resort. They believe in engagement, and other pansy concessions that could lead to dialogue, or even worse, peace." (audience laughter and applause)

The former Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, published his memoirs this month, and wrote something that seemed to be absolutely devastating about Obama, that he wasn't enthusiastic about our war in Afghanistan, and that for him, it was all about getting out. That's bad?!? Gates said George Bush was a good President because he "had no second thoughts about Iraq". (audience laughter) Right. Because to have second thoughts, you first have to have first thoughts! (wild audience cheering and applause)"

Daily KOS

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:14 pm

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:57 am

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"Remember the fertilizer plant that blew in West, Texas? Hell, remember the Massey coal mine disaster? Remember how there inevitably was a story about how those places had been freed steadily from the death grip of government regulation by the Invisible Hand of The Profit Motive? Remember how people then wondered how such terrible things could happen to such wonderful people and everybody sent teddy bears and stuff?
For the love of weeping Christ, if you let the members of America's corporate elite go unsupervised and unaccountable, they will kill people, either all at once in cave-ins or big boom-booms, or slowly, a little at a time, by poisoning the air and the water and the food." --Charle Pierce, Esquire magazine http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/S ... ay_Stories

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:58 am

On Bullshit:

"...bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant. Frankfurt concludes that although bullshit can take many innocent forms, excessive indulgence in it can eventually undermine the practitioner's capacity to tell the truth in a way that lying does not. Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:13 pm

Ezra Klein: "John Boehner isn't even trying to pretend his House of Representatives is a sane place anymore. The House GOP's debt limit bill -- obtained by the National Review -- isn't a serious governing document. It's not even a plausible opening bid. It's a cry for help."

And while the hopeless insanity of the Republican ransom note certainly matters, Jon Chait noticed something especially interesting about the GOP's "megalomaniacal ambition."

Does that list sound vaguely familiar? It's Mitt Romney's 2012 economic plan. Almost word for word, in fact. [...]
The fact that a major party could even propose anything like this is a display of astonishing contempt for democratic norms. Republicans ran on this plan and lost by 5 million votes. They also lost the Senate and received a million fewer votes in the House but held control owing to favorable district lines. Is there an example in American history of a losing party issuing threats to force the majority party to implement its rejected agenda?


Since the U.S. Civil War? No, there are no such examples."

Steve Benen

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:58 pm

The left eating their own. This time, O'Donnell. A comment from this thread on Crooks & Liars.

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“The single weakest argument I’ve heard for military intervention in Syria is that death from sarin is a uniquely horrifying form of death, uniquely inhumane,” O’Donnell said in his rewrite segment Tuesday night."

I like Lawrence O'Donnell, but who is making that argument? President Obama isn't making that argument for why the use of chemical/gas weapons of mass destruction crosses a red line for the majority of civilized countries:

President Obama, in his recent speech re military action against Syria: "Because these weapons can kill on a mass scale, with no distinction between soldier and infant, the civilized world has spent a century working to ban them. And in 1997, the United States Senate overwhelmingly approved an international agreement prohibiting the use of chemical weapons, now joined by 189 governments that represent 98 percent of humanity."

Nothing about it being "a uniquely horrifying form of death, uniquely inhumane" vs being killed by other means. It is because, like nuclear weapons, this form of warfare makes no distinction between soldier and infant. It doesn't even disable or destroy the enemy's means of weapon or artillery production. It merely kills human beings wherever the wind blows. And it does so relatively silently, without giving the targeted group a chance to retreat, protect or defend itself. That's what makes it different from so many, but not all, other forms of weaponry and why it has been banned by so many countries."

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:04 pm

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:53 am

"Pat Robertson told his viewers that that gay men in cities like San Francisco attempt to spread HIV/AIDS to others by cutting them with a special ring when shaking hands.

Co-host Terry Meeuwsen seemed to want to move the conversation along, but Robertson stuck to his crazy guns. "You know what they do in San Francisco, some in the gay community there they want to get people so if they got the stuff they'll have a ring, you shake hands, and the ring's got a little thing where you cut your finger," the TV preacher said. "Really?" Meeuwsen asked, incredulously. "Yes, really," Robertson replied.

...the Christian Broadcasting Network posted the episode online -- but edited out this portion of the program... Robertson's anti-gay hysteria was so ridiculous, even his own network was reluctant to allow people to see it.

When The Atlantic asked for comment, Robertson said he "regret[s] that my remarks had been misunderstood, but this often happens because people do not listen to the context of remarks which are being said." He added, "In no wise [sic] were my remarks meant as an indictment of the homosexual community or, for that fact, to those infected with this dreadful disease."

There is no context in which it makes sense to accuse gay people in San Francisco of deliberately cutting others in the hopes of deliberately spreading the AIDS virus." Link, with clip

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:37 am

When they say MLK was a republican, and they do like to say that, quote them this:

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy."
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"Here is what King had to say about Ronald Reagan, the hero of modern Republicans:"

When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.


"In 2008, King’s son Martin Luther King III said “It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.” --ibid

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:44 am

How not to defend voter suppression in North Carolina

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This is Phyllis Schlafly,... "writing a piece for publication effectively saying Democrats are entirely right -- North Carolina had to dramatically cut early voting because it's not good for Republicans.
Remember, Schlafly's piece [isn't] intended as criticism; this is her defense of voter suppression in North Carolina. Proponents of voting rights are arguing, "This is a blatantly partisan scheme intended to rig elections," to which Schlafly is effectively responding, "I know, isn't it great?"

The reduction in the number of days allowed for early voting is particularly important because early voting plays a major role in Obama's ground game. The Democrats carried most states that allow many days of early voting, and Obama's national field director admitted, shortly before last year's election, that "early voting is giving us a solid lead in the battleground states that will decide this election."

The Obama technocrats have developed an efficient system of identifying prospective Obama voters and then nagging them (some might say harassing them) until they actually vote. It may take several days to accomplish this, so early voting is an essential component of the Democrats' get-out-the-vote campaign.
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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:46 pm

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"These kind of procedures that are being put in place to slow the process down and make it likely that fewer Hispanics
and African Americans might vote, I think, are going to backfire, because these people are going to come out and do
what they have to do in order to vote, and I encourage that," he said."
--Colin Powell, Link

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Indium Flappers » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:07 pm

David Franks wrote:
Indium Flappers wrote:
Everett W. Burdett wrote:Never has a wiser and saner treatment of those public questions....
If this is in response to the post that immediately precedes it, I have to wonder what relevance the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts in particular, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and Medicare have to do with "the inviolability of private property and the absolute necessity of individual initiative".

Surely these advances aren't an impediment to "holding fast to our own", given that all rights come with responsibilities-- a fact the writer neglected to acknowledge in this snippet.
Ah, my apologies. No, my post had no connection to the post immediately preceding it whatever. I was simply in the midst of reading the article from which I drew the quote, and I liked the quote. The article I quoted from is actually an investigation into the results of municipal provision of electricity, gas, and electric tramways and telephones in Great Britain from the late 1800's to 1906, and how this compared with provision of similar services by private enterprise in the U.S. during the same period.

I can see how you would mistake my intention though, I should have made it clear what the quote was talking about. My bad.

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by David Franks » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:46 pm

Indium Flappers wrote:
Everett W. Burdett wrote:Never has a wiser and saner treatment of those public questions....
If this is in response to the post that immediately precedes it, I have to wonder what relevance the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts in particular, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act and Medicare have to do with "the inviolability of private property and the absolute necessity of individual initiative".

Surely these advances aren't an impediment to "holding fast to our own", given that all rights come with responsibilities-- a fact the writer neglected to acknowledge in this snippet.

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Indium Flappers » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:53 am

Everett W. Burdett wrote:Never has a wiser and saner treatment of those public questions which most nearly touch the individual - namely, those arising in and which concern the municipality in which he lives and labors - been demanded than here and now. We must meet them with firmness, but, at the same time, with an anxious desire to make all reasonable concessions. While holding fast to our own, and insisting on the inviolability of private property and the absolute necessity of individual initiative, we must treat those who are temporarily dazzled and misled by the glittering generalities of socialistic and quasi-socialistic doctrines with patience and respect. We must, in our own interest, as well as that of the body politic, try to enlighten and educate the honest and intelligent portions of our citizens in sound economic doctrines, and show them the error of their ways in adopting illusory and dangerous panaceas.


Municipal Ownership in Great Britain ~ Everett W. Burdett
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 14, No. 5 (May, 1906), pp. 257-314
The University of Chicago Press

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:16 pm

What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican party?
What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican party? I'll tell you what they did. Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things every one. So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator. Because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor." --Lawrence O'Donnell

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:39 pm

And this was 9 years ago:

"The party of Lincoln and Liberty was transmogrified into the party of hairy-backed swamp developers and corporate shills, faith-based economists, fundamentalist bullies with Bibles, Christians of convenience, freelance racists, misanthropic frat boys, shrieking midgets of AM radio, tax cheats, nihilists in golf pants, brownshirts in pinstripes, sweatshop tycoons, hacks, fakirs, aggressive dorks, Lamborghini libertarians, people who believe Neil Armstrong’s moonwalk was filmed in Roswell, New Mexico, little honkers out to diminish the rest of us, Newt’s evil spawn and their Etch-A-Sketch president, a dull and rigid man suspicious of the free flow of information and of secular institutions, whose philosophy is a jumble of badly sutured body parts trying to walk. Republicans: The No.1 reason the rest of the world thinks we’re deaf, dumb and dangerous.

Rich ironies abound! Lies pop up like toadstools in the forest! Wild swine crowd round the public trough! Outrageous gerrymandering! Pocket lining on a massive scale! Paid lobbyists sit in committee rooms and write legislation to alleviate the suffering of billionaires! Hypocrisies shine like cat turds in the moonlight! O Mark Twain, where art thou at this hour? Arise and behold the Gilded Age reincarnated gaudier than ever, upholding great wealth as the sure sign of Divine Grace." --Garrison Keillor

The rest...
We’re Not in Lake Wobegon Anymore

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:59 pm

Huff po comment on political conservative dogmatism:

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"How does someone proceed with their life after being so adamant and sure about such a huge issue and then being proven wrong?

Seriously. How do people do it? Do they just continue denying they were wrong? Do they pretend they knew the correct answer all along? Do they reflect on their monumental error and decide they need to make big changes in their lives? With the repeal of DADT the sky would fall and so would the military. And nothing happened. With gay marriage they sky would fall and so would straight marriage. And nothing happened. With Obamacare they claim government is taking over everyones lives. And nothing will happen.

Then there's the flip side: "The Iraq war is necessary and just". And then it wasn't. "The Iraq war will pay for itself". And then it didn't. "Democrats are weak on terrorism". And then they weren't. "Death panels". Nope. "Voter fraud". Sorry, no.

I mean it just never ends. Who are these people and how do they live with themselves? I honestly have no clue." LINK

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:14 pm

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Former Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele on republican blathering about impeachment:

"Steele said that Republicans are making things harder on themselves, “Particularly from members of the House, who take these
arcane, asinine positions that they know have no basis in fact and no grounding in reality.” LINK

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