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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:13 pm

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:51 am

Reich on why the election isn't so bad:
"I was in the Clinton administration Election Day 1994 when Democrats lost both houses of Congress, and Newt Gingrich became king of the Hill. It was horrible. But you know what? It created all sorts of opportunities. It smoked Republicans out. They could no longer hide behind blue-dog Democrats. Americans saw them for who they were. Gingrich became the most hated man in America. The 1994 election also marked the end of the coalition of conservative Republicans and southern Democrats that had controlled much of Congress since the end of the New Deal."

And hey look, voter suppression works:
"Voter suppression watch: In the North Carolina Senate race, Thom Tillis beat Senator Kay Hagen by 48,000 votes. North Carolina’s voters were, for the first time, voting under one of the harshest new election laws in the country — which Tillis helped craft. The Election Protection hotline reported widespread problems with voter registrations and voters being told they were in the wrong precinct. Numbers from recent elections suggest the magnitude of voter suppression is close to 45,000 to 50,000 votes.

Similarly, in Kansas, Governor Sam Brownback beat back challenger Paul Davis by fewer than 33,000 votes. The Kansas secretary of state says more than 24,000 Kansans tried to register this year but their registrations were held in “suspense” because they failed to present the documentary proof of citizenship now required by state law. And the Government Accountability Office found that Kansas’s voter ID law reduced turnout by 17,000 voters in 2012. You do the math." --Robert Reich

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:37 pm

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:07 am

"Men do tend to think about things on a much higher level... we need our male colleagues to understand that
if you can bring it down to a woman's level... that's the way to go." --GOP Congresswoman Renee Ellmers

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:31 pm

Bruce Bartlett, domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan and GHW Bush:

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Longer version:
[McCain] probably has his finger up in the air, looking around to see which way the tea party is blowing.

After the Vietnam experience, we all agreed that we must do more and do everything humanly possible to get all of our soldiers home who are captured, and we didn't ask questions about whether they were deserving or not. They're prisoners of war, they're American soldiers, they deserve to be brought home...

It's all been turned around now, because of the tea party. The Republicans in Washington constantly have their finger on the pulse of the grassroots, trying to figure out what they want, and how to pander to them.

But unfortunately, these people in the tea party are morons! I mean, they really are. They're stupid, they're ignoramuses, they have no idea what they're talking about, they're extremists, they're bigots.

Senator Thad Cochran... may very well lose his primary to some crackpot moron tea party person.

[Conservative Republicans] keep moving further and further to the right...

Fox-- which is essentially the Republican Party network, simply panders to the Republican Party line-- has an age 72 average viewing age. And so those people who make up the tea party are basically dying off."


http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2014/06 ... ots-dying/

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:02 pm

"I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we we're going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we'd have had to hunt him down. And once we'd done that and we'd gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we'd have had to put another government in its place. What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or Shi'i government or a Kurdish government or Ba'athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some of the Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable? ...it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq." --Dick Cheney, April 29, 1991.

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:16 am

THE PROBLEM ISN'T THE VA OR ERIC SHINSEKI
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"The problem with the VA system right now is that, for an entire decade, we sent people into the meat grinder of a war the architects of which conducted completely off the books. They kept it off the books used to keep the federal budget, and they did all they could to keep it off the books of the nation's moral conscience as well. They lied and they cooked their estimates on everything far worse than did the likely criminals who fudged the documentation at the hospital in Phoenix. The whole country was awash in the moral equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, all glistening and shiny and bedecked in bunting. Meanwhile, the physical, financial, and moral cost of it all built up and built up until the scheme got bigger and more complicated and, ultimately, it became untenable. And now, the people who launched it in the first place are tut-tutting about what happened when the whole thing finally collapsed. The one thing to remember about a Ponzi scheme is that the people who get in first get paid off. They got their war. They profited from the double-entry bookkeeping they kept on the national conscience and, now, there's a Democratic president, and a whole lot of injured veterans, who end up holding the bag." --Charles P. Pierce

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"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." --H. L. Mencken

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon May 19, 2014 10:19 am

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:29 am

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Putting a face on all of the conservative Teabagger children I debate on Facebook:

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by David Franks » Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:58 pm

Meanwhile, in a Teabagger sleeper cell....

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:27 pm

Bill Maher:

"The National Review said, "If the President thinks the NFL is too dangerous for his fictitious son, what about the military?" Right, because defending your country and kickoff returns are the same thing.
I don't know where Republicans get this weird delusion that they're the party of manliness, but this is Rush Limbaugh's bedroom.

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(audience laughter and applause)

Talent on loan from God. Furniture on loan from Liberace. (audience laughter)

And yet somehow conservatives — who boast by far the bigger list of non-serving chickenhawks — see themselves as the tough guys. But it's rarely a real manliness, it's more the pathetic bluster of a blogger in his bathrobe demanding that Obama "man up and bomb Iran!" while his mother fixes his macaroni and cheese.

None of this is going to get better until Democrats stop letting Republicans claim they've got the big balls, just because. For one, I never quite got how my life would be better with increased ball size. (audience laughter) If you need to stick your balls in to get things going, you're doing it wrong! (audience laughter) And two, Democrats have to start being the party that redefines toughness as restraint. And stop responding to Republican taunts that have goaded Michael Dukakis into a tank, John Kerry into a duck hunting outfit, and Hillary Clinton into Iraq.

Because it's not really masculinity conservatives love, anyway — it's bullying. Somehow we've gone from Teddy Roosevelt's "speak softly and carry a big stick" to Chris Christie's "speak loudly and be a big dick". (wild audience cheering and applause)

Fox News's manly He-Man Brit Hume said liberals don't get Christie, because he's a, quote, "old fashioned masculine muscular guy". (shocked audience laughter) Or maybe four muscular guys in a garbage truck.

But bullying isn't a masculine virtue; standing up to bullies is. (wild audience cheering and applause) Ignoring society's least-abled people is not masculine; taking care of them is. (audience cheering) But to macho people like Rush Limbaugh, who said Obama not letting his son play football was "irresponsible", or Glenn Beck — another fountain of testosterone — who called on Obama to "stop being a chick" about football, this is what it always comes down to: Obama is a pussy like all Democrats are pussies.

It's all part of their narrative that (spoken sarcastically) "we will keep you safe, cuz we're the real men who aren't afraid to send your kids off to die in wars of choice. And the Democrats are a bunch of nancy-boys who think of war as some sort of last resort. They believe in engagement, and other pansy concessions that could lead to dialogue, or even worse, peace." (audience laughter and applause)

The former Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, published his memoirs this month, and wrote something that seemed to be absolutely devastating about Obama, that he wasn't enthusiastic about our war in Afghanistan, and that for him, it was all about getting out. That's bad?!? Gates said George Bush was a good President because he "had no second thoughts about Iraq". (audience laughter) Right. Because to have second thoughts, you first have to have first thoughts! (wild audience cheering and applause)"

Daily KOS

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:14 pm

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:57 am

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"Remember the fertilizer plant that blew in West, Texas? Hell, remember the Massey coal mine disaster? Remember how there inevitably was a story about how those places had been freed steadily from the death grip of government regulation by the Invisible Hand of The Profit Motive? Remember how people then wondered how such terrible things could happen to such wonderful people and everybody sent teddy bears and stuff?
For the love of weeping Christ, if you let the members of America's corporate elite go unsupervised and unaccountable, they will kill people, either all at once in cave-ins or big boom-booms, or slowly, a little at a time, by poisoning the air and the water and the food." --Charle Pierce, Esquire magazine http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/S ... ay_Stories

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:58 am

On Bullshit:

"...bullshitters seek to convey a certain impression of themselves without being concerned about whether anything at all is true. They quietly change the rules governing their end of the conversation so that claims about truth and falsity are irrelevant. Frankfurt concludes that although bullshit can take many innocent forms, excessive indulgence in it can eventually undermine the practitioner's capacity to tell the truth in a way that lying does not. Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:13 pm

Ezra Klein: "John Boehner isn't even trying to pretend his House of Representatives is a sane place anymore. The House GOP's debt limit bill -- obtained by the National Review -- isn't a serious governing document. It's not even a plausible opening bid. It's a cry for help."

And while the hopeless insanity of the Republican ransom note certainly matters, Jon Chait noticed something especially interesting about the GOP's "megalomaniacal ambition."

Does that list sound vaguely familiar? It's Mitt Romney's 2012 economic plan. Almost word for word, in fact. [...]
The fact that a major party could even propose anything like this is a display of astonishing contempt for democratic norms. Republicans ran on this plan and lost by 5 million votes. They also lost the Senate and received a million fewer votes in the House but held control owing to favorable district lines. Is there an example in American history of a losing party issuing threats to force the majority party to implement its rejected agenda?


Since the U.S. Civil War? No, there are no such examples."

Steve Benen

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:58 pm

The left eating their own. This time, O'Donnell. A comment from this thread on Crooks & Liars.

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“The single weakest argument I’ve heard for military intervention in Syria is that death from sarin is a uniquely horrifying form of death, uniquely inhumane,” O’Donnell said in his rewrite segment Tuesday night."

I like Lawrence O'Donnell, but who is making that argument? President Obama isn't making that argument for why the use of chemical/gas weapons of mass destruction crosses a red line for the majority of civilized countries:

President Obama, in his recent speech re military action against Syria: "Because these weapons can kill on a mass scale, with no distinction between soldier and infant, the civilized world has spent a century working to ban them. And in 1997, the United States Senate overwhelmingly approved an international agreement prohibiting the use of chemical weapons, now joined by 189 governments that represent 98 percent of humanity."

Nothing about it being "a uniquely horrifying form of death, uniquely inhumane" vs being killed by other means. It is because, like nuclear weapons, this form of warfare makes no distinction between soldier and infant. It doesn't even disable or destroy the enemy's means of weapon or artillery production. It merely kills human beings wherever the wind blows. And it does so relatively silently, without giving the targeted group a chance to retreat, protect or defend itself. That's what makes it different from so many, but not all, other forms of weaponry and why it has been banned by so many countries."

Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:04 pm

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:53 am

"Pat Robertson told his viewers that that gay men in cities like San Francisco attempt to spread HIV/AIDS to others by cutting them with a special ring when shaking hands.

Co-host Terry Meeuwsen seemed to want to move the conversation along, but Robertson stuck to his crazy guns. "You know what they do in San Francisco, some in the gay community there they want to get people so if they got the stuff they'll have a ring, you shake hands, and the ring's got a little thing where you cut your finger," the TV preacher said. "Really?" Meeuwsen asked, incredulously. "Yes, really," Robertson replied.

...the Christian Broadcasting Network posted the episode online -- but edited out this portion of the program... Robertson's anti-gay hysteria was so ridiculous, even his own network was reluctant to allow people to see it.

When The Atlantic asked for comment, Robertson said he "regret[s] that my remarks had been misunderstood, but this often happens because people do not listen to the context of remarks which are being said." He added, "In no wise [sic] were my remarks meant as an indictment of the homosexual community or, for that fact, to those infected with this dreadful disease."

There is no context in which it makes sense to accuse gay people in San Francisco of deliberately cutting others in the hopes of deliberately spreading the AIDS virus." Link, with clip

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:37 am

When they say MLK was a republican, and they do like to say that, quote them this:

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy."
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"Here is what King had to say about Ronald Reagan, the hero of modern Republicans:"

When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.


"In 2008, King’s son Martin Luther King III said “It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.” --ibid

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Re: Political Quotes of the Day

Post by Dardedar » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:44 am

How not to defend voter suppression in North Carolina

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This is Phyllis Schlafly,... "writing a piece for publication effectively saying Democrats are entirely right -- North Carolina had to dramatically cut early voting because it's not good for Republicans.
Remember, Schlafly's piece [isn't] intended as criticism; this is her defense of voter suppression in North Carolina. Proponents of voting rights are arguing, "This is a blatantly partisan scheme intended to rig elections," to which Schlafly is effectively responding, "I know, isn't it great?"

The reduction in the number of days allowed for early voting is particularly important because early voting plays a major role in Obama's ground game. The Democrats carried most states that allow many days of early voting, and Obama's national field director admitted, shortly before last year's election, that "early voting is giving us a solid lead in the battleground states that will decide this election."

The Obama technocrats have developed an efficient system of identifying prospective Obama voters and then nagging them (some might say harassing them) until they actually vote. It may take several days to accomplish this, so early voting is an essential component of the Democrats' get-out-the-vote campaign.
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